Jens Johansson wrote:Timo Tolkki wrote:I know this is the real reason of the bitterness. I just wonder, why I don't have the hate and bitterness about that money? I lost 1/4 of it too. This is what I don't understand.
I perceive a sort of singularity point of
cognitive dissonance in your thinking exactly at this spot. I consider the fact significant that you
caused it to be a loss, and; sure you lost 1/5 of it too, but by short-sightedly gaining a larger amount for yourself, from Frontiers.
Of course taking 100 even if it causes a loss to yourself of 50 is rational. 50 is more than zero.
Taking 100 if it causes a loss of 50 for yourself, another separate loss of 50 for Jörg, another separate loss of 50 for me, another separate loss of 50 for TK and another separate loss of 50 for Jari, is greedy behavior.
I think somewhere deep within you understand this too, and that's why that statement was so fucking annoying and hurtful to you.
About this word "greed"... You can analyze it and twist it backwards and forwards, it's still justifiably described as an act of greed.
Greed;
excessive desire for getting or having, esp. wealth; desire for more than one needs or deserves;
Imagine five kids sitting around a yummy cake. Everyone wants the cake. They look at that cake for a long time. That cake sure looks yummy! They agree to try to get to this cake, divide it, and yaaay, eat a bunch of cake!
It's however covered by a heavy glass cover. All five kids are needed to lift the cover, and it takes time and patience to balance the cover right so you can lift it straight up and not have it fall on the cake. They keep trying for quite a while. Frustrating.
Now one of the kids gets a little hungry. There is an Italian guy (let's call him Mephistopheles Peregrinus) in the next room who tells this kid,
"Pssssst, I have another cake over here. Fuck those other guys. Even though my cake is a little smaller, you'll only at the most get a fifth of that cake with all those guys around it anyway. Just come in here and allow me to fuck you in the ass, and you can have all you want of this cake."
The hungry kid had enough of waiting and without warning lets go of the heavy glass cover. It falls on the big cake and ruins it.
After letting go, he goes in the other room and gets a giant Italian schlong rammed up the ass. After that, he eats the smaller cake, but then on the other hand -- he doesn't have to share it.
Would this be considered "greedy" or just acting in rational self interest? I think the former. (And what if that fifth kid, as he drops the cover and runs, screams "Waaaah! All you evil guys care about is cake!!" .. and then plunges headfirst, mouth open, into another cake.
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In real life, I really don't like cake by the way.
Do consider myself greedy? No. Do I get really upset at being called a money-hungry corporate person? Not really, I thought that was sort of funny actually.
Do I do these things only for money? Obviously not, I could have made about 10,000 times more money in stocks or some crap like that.
Do I make music for money? Of course. I am a person. I am not a communist, I believe in well-regulated capitalism. I need money to live. Money is just a tool which you use to make more music. It is a trade token, not good or evil in itself.
Music is just one of many tools to obtain money, which can then be turned into even more music.
Like that famous saying, "a mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems"...
In that sense a musician is a machine for turning money into music.
I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.
If people are disillusioned by that remark, I can't help it.
It's the truth.
-- Charlie Chaplin
